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PepereDaddy.jpgAs a corollary to last week's What a Girl Wants entry on race and identity in YA lit, I've been thinking about the question of what it means to be white. When I was teaching (soldiers and dependents at Ft Wainwright, AK) we would discuss ethnicity as part of our survey of war in the 20th century. For a classroom exercise, everyone would identify their own ethnicity. It was always a United Nations in my classes: Native American, African American, Asian American (Cambodian, Filipino, Japanese, etc.), Hispanic (Mexican, Guatemalan, Honduran, etc.), Jamaican, Puerto Rican and on and on. Then we would get to the Caucasian students and always - without fail - the first response would be "I'm white". It always took a few minutes to explain to them that white was a color and really, means nothing at all.

My white students identified more with skin than ethnicity while all of my other students identified much more strongly in the opposite manner. It did not occur to any of them to say they were black or brown - they preferred to discuss how they were raised, where they were born or what their families taught them. There was a lot of head shaking as we discussed what it meant - and didn't mean - to be white. After the first few times I knew to expect it, and was ready to ask the questions about where their parents and grandparents were from and tease out the immigrant stories that everyone has (no matter how far back you have to go).

I've been thinking about my students a lot lately as I put together the post on minority characters in YA lit. While there is certainly a dearth of such characters in most teen novels (which is why I posed last week's question) there is also something very odd going on in novels with Caucasian protagonists. It has been ages since I've read a YA novel that is not pointedly about minorities where the characters are described as anything other than just white. There is no mention of a religion (even so much as a sentence about going to church, synagogue, etc.) or culture or any kind of ethnic clues at all. There is a blandness to these books - and these characters - that would seem to defy the way most of us live. It is not that I expect ethnicity to be part and parcel of every novel - plots do not need to revolve around it - but I can't possibly be the only person in the country who grew up with a parent that spoke endearments in his native language (my father first language was French) or enjoyed a cup of tea served the Irish way by my grandmother. Also, as someone half Irish and half French Canadian, I came from a very Roman Catholic background. While we may not have discussed God on a daily basis (please) we were in church every Sunday, every funeral is a Catholic Mass and every member of my family (except for my generation) carried rosaries on their person pretty much all the time. (I imagine my mother still carries some sort of religious medal or rosary in her purse somewhere, if for no other reason then to honor her parents.)(I do the same thing.) There is food that we ate, stories we told and sports we watched (the Montreal Canadians were my father's saints) that we all related to our ethnicity. And everyone I know lived this way to one degree or another. But that's not the world I've been reading about and I'd love to know why.

Author Alma Alexander raised something similar to this in one of her comments last week about white authors: "There is such a breadth of human experience out there. Just as I don't for a moment believe that there is a generic "black experience", I believe at the same time that a reverse error is often made when people speak of "white writers" - WHICH white writers? A Swedish writer? A British writer? A Greek writer? Someone from Sydney...? Rome...? Chicago...? Just what EXACTLY are all those wildly diverse "white" writers supposed to have in common to write about in terms of "white experience"?"

I see a similar catch-all of "white experience" for characters. There is a misconception that being white is a totality of experience by itself and yet, and yet, really that is not true. Again, in my classes I would divide the classes to break down what made us different and what made us the same. First we split by race (Caucasian and non Caucasian) as that was how the class saw themselves most different. But then I asked them to divide by who had given birth and who hadn't which led to a lot of comments from every mother in the class saying that unless you had done that you didn't know anything about pain. (This was usually a huge mood lightener which was the chief reason why I did it.) From there we split on region (westerners thought they were cooler, easterners smarter, northerners tougher, southerners claimed bbq - and no one could argue that.) We split on who had lost a parent, who had survived cancer, who loved Star Trek vs who hated it. Things always got a little goofy but the point, as everyone walked back and forth across the room, was that there were a lot of things we had in common that transcended race. Skin color was just skin color and in the grand scheme of things only part of who we are.

Which wasn't really news to anyone but something that became so obvious no one in the class could ignore it.

In reading most YA novels for girls these days the protagonist is some generic white girl whose parents do an indefinable job for a living, lives in a house or apartment that is easily paid for, and has nondescript features that are either beautiful, mousy, appealing, understated, or plain....depending on the book's message. She goes to school, she has friends, she has drama. She is sick or someone she loves is sick. She is in love or pines for love. She is bright and appreciated or shy and unnoticed. She is the obvious heroine or becomes one by the end. But regardless of all those plot points, she rarely has any aspect of her life that lets the reader know the slightest thing about who her people are or where they came from.

We might as well be reading glorified versions of Dick and Jane for all these books really tells us.

I bring this up not to suggest that white characters are in some sort of competition with minority ones, but rather to show that homogeneity is more the order of the day in our stories then we imagine. Part of why it might be more difficult for minority characters to break through is because white characters are so blank that any character with any ethnic sensibility (even when it is only descriptive and not the point of the story) stands way out. The point is to make the characters to identifiable to all readers (or who the publishers want them to appeal to) that they have become not everyone but no one. It's all about blonde and white and middle class. And beyond that, well beyond that you pretty much might as well be an illegal immigrant for all that these books tell us about ourselves.

I hated Dick and Jane, by the way. What bloody boring stories. That's not the world I grew up in and I don't understand why it still pervades our reading experience today.

[Post pic: my father and grandfather - proud French Canadians. Circa 1942. My father was the first one in his paternal family to be born in this country.]

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Not surprisingly, another wonderful, thought-provoking post. Stories can only get richer, more grounded, when infused with the sorts of particulars you are calling for. You open doors when you call for such a thing. Selfishly speaking, may I also say that such stories are also fun to write. In a recent YA book (HOUSE OF DANCE), I loved introducing characters from very different backgrounds—loved shaping them on the page. The vocabulary expands and so do the possibilities.

oh, and I LOVE this photograph.

I've never thought of this topic before, not consciously. To me, everybody comes from somewhere, and every character in the U.S. at least has some interaction with religion [Puritans shaped the country, which shapes the people], politics, music, foods -- that tell me where they're from. Anything else is a poorly written character or one in a fast-paced mystery and the writer has no time to give me personal details. It seems there's no excuse for that -- writing characters as shells in that way...

From a sociological angle, whenever the "white man" came, people had to put on clothes and slough off culture. Think of the Hawai'ians, the Aboriginal people of Australia, the Aztecs and the Native Americans. Some part of our Puritan heritage seems to contain volumes of high-necked collars, whitewash and homogenizing compounds, so that everyone has this eternal sameness that's supposed to be acceptably "white" applied to their backgrounds.


And yet, the "other" is still thought of as "cool," in abstract, at least. There is still an exoticizing factor at work, and you hear people dip a toe into the "cool" world of ethnicity by working in a few words of Spanish and calling their girlfriends "chica" -- or calling everyone "girlfriend!" It's weird how people flirt with the idea of ethnicity, but the reality historically is a long-standing belief that ethnicity was some kind of stain on the acceptable homogenized norm. Many Caucasian people I know dearly wish to embrace a rich culture and birthright. But they don't either have the courage or know that it belongs to them. I really think it would be amazing to see writers of YA lit in particular move away from the bland and "you don't need details, White is White" idea and give Caucasians some... color.

(And, btw, Colleen -- Penny and Pam and Mike were obvious token tag-ons to the whole Dick and Jane thing, and I was mortified when someone gave me those books as a kid. They were collector's items, and I was supposed to be delighted. I was horribly embarrassed. Those cloying, pink-overalled twins and their suit-wearing father were NOTHING like my family.)

Well said. Thank you for this post and for this thoughtful and ongoing discussion.

You're Canadian! I knew it...that explains your brilliance. ;-)

Have you read that book, How the Irish Became White? I only dabbled in Whiteness Studies in grad school; personally, I think that's work that whites need to do themselves, even though their awareness (or lack thereof) impacts me directly. My professor once told a story about teaching at a law school, and facing a large class that was 99% white; she distributed questionnaires to see how the students self-identified, but instead of the usual "black, white, other" boxes, she used African American, European American, Asian American, etc. When she looked over the questionnaires that night, she was stunned to see that 99% of her students checked the box for Native American! For them, to be white was to be "native," not Other, not "from somewhere else." What about Peggy McIntosh's article, "White Privilege, Male Privilege"? I use that with my students, and it's always provocative; she makes a list of things whites can do that POC can't. Of course, she has since had to revise the article b/c distinctions among whites lead to differences in the way group members experience privilege. I think in some ways, whites in the US have been sold a bill of goods; white supremacy insists upon racial solidarity, but the fact remains that class very often determines one's opportunities in this country...along with age, ethnicity, sexual orientation, ability, etc.

I'm so glad you started this conversation; it's something I think about anyway, but yesterday I offended two of my closest friends by informing them I was adding a Haitian and queer character to my latest novel. They exchanged wary glances, then began suggesting alternatives...but I suppose it's better to be a self-conscious writer than an oblivious one.

I think in some ways, whites in the US have been sold a bill of goods; white supremacy insists upon racial solidarity, but the fact remains that class very often determines one's opportunities in this country

This is a very important point and one people of any color in this country don't like to look at, the fact that we are as sharply divided by class as we are by race. Many Americans like to believe that we are a classless society, but it simply isn't true. I think it's a weird residual effect of the promise of the American Dream. We don't want to call attention to the injustice of the class system because we all believe that one day, we might be the ones on top and we don't want to screw up that position of privilege for ourselves. (We may not be quite sure how we're going to get there, but hey, it could happen. This is America!)

The problem with trying to give white people a little color is that so much of it has already been lost--often forcefully scrubbed away by our own hands. I vividly remember living through a part of that assimilation.

My family is Pennsylvania Dutch and have been in the same area since the mid 18th century. Not recent immigrants, and yet I grew up surrounded by the culture. My grandparents spoke fluent Pennsylvania Dutch. My great-great-grandmother was a powwow witch (I have her spellbook.) My mother cooked traditional PA Dutch foods like schnitz and nep, hog maw, fasnachts, pot pie (not the stuff the rest of the country thinks it is!)

But in school, we were taught that all of this was wrong. I'm talking the sixties and seventies, here, where this culture was beaten out of us. If we used PA Dutch words or the German sentence construction where we got our phrases and verbs out of order, we were called "Dumb Dutchies." We were made to feel ashamed of not being "normal."

Today, PA Dutch culture is an isolated tourist attraction in Lancaster County. Here in York, it's dying out. Few people under the age of seventy know what you mean when you say reutch, brutz or strubly anymore.

I'm still not sure why there was this deliberate effort to obliterate it--or why today there doesn't seem to be any desire to revive it. But what I remember is a real anger in the movement to assimilate that probably had its roots in many different events and issues. A lingering memory of a sort of "no Irish need apply" mentality, the humiliating 1929 Hex trial where PA Dutch culture was held up to international ridicule, and long-simmering racial issues that erupted in the 1968 race riots (a solid white front being a stronger force than one culturally divided?) Fear is always a great motivator.

And then the cynical side of me wonders how much of it was driven by marketing. Easier to market to a broad common population.

In working with kids in my son's school (and they're almost all "white," in a sharply economically divided community, but that's another long rant) I found that none of them were aware of the origin of their last names and had no sense of culture beyond a consumerist one. They have learned at their parents' knees that it is the things you have that make you who you are.

Tanita - I'm going to date myself here; I don't think Penny, etc. were in the books I read (in the early 1970s). Were they part of D&J that early? (Maybe I just don't remember them. Mostly I remember how much I HATED those books!)

Melissa: "They have learned at their parents' knees that it is the things you have that make you who you are." Isn't that just what is wrong with America in a nutshell? We get so many things right in this country but damn...that is so wrong!!

More later guys - off to an appointment!

Its not only in novels where stories are going untold, look at MTV. Its either shows like The Hills or 16 and pregnant. There is no middle ground, either the teens are living the high life or straight struggling. I never looked for myself on MTV ( they actually played videos when I watched), but now that that its more so called reality TV teens might want to see stories they can relate to.

Col, you might not have gotten Penny/Pam because you went to public school! The Catholic and Seventh-day Adventist versions of these primers went multi-ethnic (and changed the names so they matched saint names) in 1965. They were pretty dated by the time we came across them.


It's true -- once again, a lot or cultural distinctions come down to class. Class is different at home than in the UK, the distinctions here are more obvious because people here don't pretend that it's not still a big part of their lives. What with Lords and Ladies and Dukes hanging around still, it's hard to ignore. In the U.S., it's insidious, because we try to ignore it, and pretend that we did away with all of that. And then we coin phrases like "soccer moms" and "NASCAR dads" to explain demographics.


Melissa's remeberances of being Pennsylvania Dutch make me sad, because don't people flock to Lancaster Co. each year to get close to that sort of life? We do drive-by cultural tourism all the time. There were definitely mistakes made in previous generations which tried to erase and eradicate anything but the whitewashed homogeneous norm, but can't we change that now?

This really hits home for me. I grew up in the 60s/70s being VERY aware of my ethnicity; my Sicilian grandmother lived with us, and all my childhood I listened to her and my mother speak Sicilian. (Unfortunately, my mother decided not to teach us the language, as my father had no interest in learning and she didn't want him to be the only one not to understand). I was raised with my grandmother's old-country food, sayings, and attitudes, and they are a huge part of who I am.

Ethnic assimilation got a huge jump-start with the movies. (Before that, vaudeville played ethnic stereotypes for laughs.) Rita Hayworth was born Margarita Carmen Cansino. Joan Crawford was Lucille LeSueur. Any trace of ethnicity was expunged by the studios to make the actors more marketable. Still going on today; actor Kal Penn is Kalpen Suresh Modi. He found when he changed his name, his callback rate for auditions went up 50%.

It's true that a lot of current contemporary YA completely overlooks ethnic influence. A reflection of today's culture, I suppose...but it contributes to this national amnesia of who people are and where they came from, which I find deadly boring. Pernicious, too--look at the manufactured uproar over Sonia Sotomayor's comments about being a "wise Latina." I knew exactly what she was talking about, but some conservatives have called her racist for saying it. Similarly, some arguments against immigration raise the specter of "neighborhoods where you can't read any of the signs," and Bill O'Reilly's fear that he'll walk into a sandwich shop and "not be able to read the menu." Hellooo...that pretty much describes European ethnic neighborhoods from the late 1800s through the 1970s. In Chicago, Polish-Americans even had their own (multiple) Polish-language newspapers. Quelle horreur!

Maybe that's partly why I'm drawn to writing historical fiction--because I get the chance to explore ethnicity, race, and class (people were much more candid about class even just a few generations ago) and how these influence my characters. And to say, Yes, this IS how it was.

Oh yes. So much here. So much so that I might segue off and do my own blog post on it because otherwise I'd write so much in comments here that it would TURN into my own blog post. But thank you, Colleen. Great post.

I've been trying to send this comment since yesterday. : )

"White" writers can bring such wealth and diversity to literature from their own backgrounds, but Colleen mentions that "white" authors only write bland characters. Why do you think they haven't dipped into their ancestry to fill YA lit with more fascinating characters of their own heritage? Perhaps the challenge to streeeeetch one's imagination as a creative writer and use POC and LGBT characters far exceeds the desire to stay on course with what they think might be boring?

Colleen, I believe that if you add a French-Canadian teen character--what you know and is part of your heritage/culture, along with the POC character you mentioned, you'll be inspired to create even richer work. What if all "white" authors started incorporating people of their heritage into their writing? Wouldn't that make for fascinating lit?

My family fled Cuba, a Communist country, and although I'd prefer POC and LGBT's to write our own stories, I'm all for creating what moves you. Censorship is destructive to the human psyche/spirit. Freedom of thought and expression is what I stand for at all costs. But in my heart, I wish Latinos/POC and LGBT's had a chance to shine as "white" authors have since the history of publishing.

And who knows, I might write the next "white" heterosexual best-seller!

I've never seen this as an issue of writing what we know, but of WHO we know deeply. If authors wrote only what we knew, we might as well hang it up! I have a New York "white" friend who went to public school and lives in a working class neighborhood. Friends he grew up with are a multitude of diverse individuals with different cultures. His once "white" family is now mixed. I'm confident he can write an authentic POC book with a POC point of view.

are there statistics on how many Latina/o and other POC editors work in the publishing industry? Could this be why 99 percent of authors published are "white?" We need editors (white and POC) who understand our language and culture and the important contribution authentic POC books can make to literature and history.

I'm amazed folks are still responding to last week's blog comments. Thanks Colleen, for your brilliant mind and for making us think hard on such important topics. I didn't know you had skin cancer and hope you're doing well.

In terms of a generic "white" identity, it's no more feasible than a generic "black" identity, or a generic "brown" identity. Black and brown people are from the Caribbean, Africa, South and Central America, Australia, Asia and North America. There are Christians, Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, Jews, Catholics, Hindus and Sikhs among us. There is, likewise, no possible way to put all of Europe's peoples into one lump and label it easily with "white." As others have written above, race is a construct and it almost always, inevitably, boils down to economics or class.

Zetta, I've used McIntosh's essay in classrooms, as well. It makes for wonderful discussion and debate. Christine and Mayra, you both make terrific points. I've always believed each one of us is an entire storehouse of experiences from which to cull stories we can craft into magic. The stories of our families and the rich traditions, customs, and beliefs of our foreparents make for fascinating material, and hold the most emotional resonance -- possibly because there is such a strong personal and emotional connection for the writer.

And, yes, I agree: fantastic discussions here. Sending more healing thoughts your way, Colleen.

With all these comments about how culture has been homogenized over the years, is it any wonder the same thing is happening to our reading material?

So my QUESTION is...

Are authors writing stories with diverse characters but we aren't seeing them because publishers won't buy them?

OR...

Are authors not writing about diverse characters? And if not is it because...

1) They aren't interested in doing so?
or
2) They don't think it will sell?

What do you guys think?

Interesting question Alyssa and one I have thought about a lot as a YA reviewer. I try to review books with different characters or in different situations - anything out of the standard formula just because I think those authors should be rewarded with attention - as long as the books are good, of course. (Understand that this stretches to include everything from Charles R. Smith's story of 4 Af American boys in "Chameleon" to Jackie Kelley's story of a young girl struggling with her desire to be a naturalist in turn of the century TX in "Evolution of Calpurnia Tate".) I wish I knew if the books were being written to a large degree and I don't know how we would know that. But the flip side is always that publishers publish what sells and transforming the formula of what sells is very difficult. They say on a proven track for a long long time and so a lot of people would have to start including characters with ethnic identity in order for them to show up. (I think - I really don't know.)

As to my YA in progress, Mayra, that's actually a bit of a love letter to my Irish grandmother so the character in that story leans more heavily on her Irish roots...something, yes, I do know well. At this point though, I think that including reference to Ireland and old NY (where she was born) will be revolutionary to a certain extent and I look forward to making her a character who knows who she is.

The French Canadian book is only a glimmer in my eye at this point - but it's out there!!!

Thanks for all the good wishes, guys. My son just told me I look like Frankenstein! (Ten stitches.) I guess I should be glad he is honest.... :)

Mary

Great discussion. When asked my ethnicity growing up, I didn't say white, I said Heinz 57. I LONGED & WISHED for ethnicity. My best friend's parents were from Germany and they spoke German at home and ate strange foods I'd never seen before. Another friend was Italian from Chicago and she seemed so exotic. I felt plain and white. My family had intermarried so many times since arriving in the US that I couldn't find a quarter or sixteenth of anything to sink my teeth into. We ate hamburger, potatoes and gravy, with canned green beans.

As a children's writer I felt so envious of fellow writers who had an ethnic background to borrow from. I researched to add more ethnicity to my writing, but it doesn't come through on the deep level of having the blood in your veins. I have had to search more deeply for what it is that is my experience that makes me who I am, and to write from that place.

That brings up another interesting thing about being an American - because we do intermarry like crazy here. My son is both Irish Am and French Can and also Russian (Ukrainian) and English on his father's side. He says he is a human mutt. The English bit is very watered down but as it includes coal miners and cowboys (for sure - we have photos) it is still very cool to him. We've tried to talk alot about where people came from and what they did. As I don't speak French and my father has passed away (my son never knew him) I talk alot about Canada to him. It will not be as easy for him as it was for me but we try very hard.

Unfortunately the food thing is a whole other deal. My son eats like five things right now and that is it (He's 7). Ketchup is the main ingredient. We're working on it...... :)

Jennifer Hubbard

My experience is like Mary's. The first place I remember living was very "white"--but everyone really got into the "what nationality are you?" question. (That's what it was called back then--not ethnic background, but nationality.) Everyone else could give straightforward simple answers: they were German or Italian or Irish or French or Greek, or maybe they were German-Irish or French-Irish, but that was it. Whereas I had to start reeling off the names of so many European countries that people's eyes glazed over. Complicating that was the way borders changed (my grandmother was born in a part of Poland that was at times part of Russia) and the inaccuracies and misreporting we later discovered by finding old family documents.

Provocative and challenging discussion here - i've gone back to the early WaGW posts for background. Thank you for hosting this discussion, Colleen.

As a Canadian ex-pat, my WIP is definitely informed by my Irish-Catholic background, although i think i will set it in USA rather than Canada - in a contemporary sense, that is what i am more familiar with now, and can speak to most accurately.

The character details are very specific to the IC culture and ethnicity: the protag identifies strongly with her backgroud. This makes both for more compelling reading AND writing - i know that i love to read a richly drawn character.

Bland=boring.

On an ex-pat note, have you read William Ferguson's Why I Hate Canadians? Nothing bland there - interesting mix of anthropology, history, economics with sharp questioning - who are we? Not just, who are we NOT (i.e. Americans), but WHO ARE WE? It is a question that could well be asked of any culture or sub-culture.

Thanks for that book rec, Jet! I spoke recently to one of my cousins who married a Swedish American and his family has a ton of traditions, etc. Her mother-in-law demanded to know what Canadians can offer tradition-wise and all Renee could think of was hockey and Catholic church! ha! It didn't go over very well. Our parents were very French but it got watered down with all of us (plus they moved away from the their French town in NE, etc.)
Anyway, it will be great to read that book and pass it along.

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