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The topic today is mean girls, specifically mean girls in literature (and as an ancillary, in pop culture). From Nellie Olson to Cordelia Chase to a couple of YA novels that came across my radar lately (The Complete History of Why I Hate Her by Jennifer Richard Jacobson and Getting Revenge on Lauren Wood by Eileen Cook) it seems that for every faithful friend and all-round good girl there is some darn near demonically possessed mean girl out there determined to take her down.

The fact that demons never have anything to do with these scenarios is perhaps their most terrifying element.

What I had for the panel this go-round was a bit of a chicken and egg question, as in "did literature create the myth of mean girls or have the reality of mean girls created accompanying literature?" I channeled Heathers a bit while pondering this one as it remains the ultimate mean girls movie in some respects - and certainly the most disturbing. (Fun fact: apparently Heather Graham was supposed to play one of the Heathers but her mother wouldn't let her because the plot was too dark.)

I am still torn on my own response to the question, and not certain just what the answer should be. I know that I receive a ton of teen books and a I know a lot of them are about girls being mean to other girls. But I also remember my own tough moments in junior high and high school (which frankly paled in comparison to the office stabbing to come later) and I know how awful it felt back then to be the recipient of such meanness. Maybe it's not so bad in the grand scheme of things, but when you're in the middle of it, such cruelty can be downright devastating. It's something to think about, that's for sure. (ETA: I must credit Little Willow booklists for many of the titles pictured here - she is so on top of YA publishing, it is amazing!)

So, the questions: Does teen literature exaggerate the mean girl phenomena too much? If aliens landed on earth and read teen lit (oh my) would they expect to find mini Cordelias wreaking havoc on every high school across America? Are they so prevalent because it just easier to write about mean girls then nice ones? Is teen lit reflecting what is real in this instance or propagating an unfair female stereotype?

Beth Kephart: "I've had my share of brush ups with the world's mean girls—their whispers in the ears of others; their fingers pointed at me; their thievery of boys I loved (though what boy is ever an innocent in such a game?); the loud howl of a long ridicule; the laughter that was anything but funny; the stray ugly comment about a book (my favorite anonymous Amazon comment ever accused me of being something like a billion years old; I think that was mean). I can and do (I admit this!) watch a late-night rerun of The Housewives of New York City or Orange County with a tad too much eager fascination (Really? Women talk like that and men take it? Women scheme like that and survive not just the world but themselves?). And I introduced, as a minor character in my first YA novel, Undercover, a mean beauty named Lila; I introduced her because the book is autobiographical, and because I have found myself ruthlessly tangled up with the likes of such a one.

But I have never seen the world as lopsidedly mean; such girls are rare, in my experience, wounded in some deep fashion, and, in the end, in need of compassion. (I’m still trying to locate my bit of compassion for my personal Lila. Give me time. Please. Give me time.) That there are so many books placing mean girls at their centers says more about the perceived need for a certain kind of novelistic conflict, in my estimation, than about the actual distribution of female types. Mean girls versus good girls is black versus white. It’s anti-heroine versus heroine. It’s a game, and someone will win. Maybe it’s just me, maybe it’s my age, but I grow increasingly interested, as I read and write, in the shades of gray, and what they teach us."

Lorie Ann Grover: "I'm not a sociologist, but I've read Queen Bees and Wannabes by Rosalind Wiseman and Odd Girl Out by Rachel Simmons. I believe the nonfiction conclusions that girls leverage power in a very different way than boys. Rather than plain facts and fists, girls use words and withhold them to manipulate.

I do remember certain mean girls throughout my school experience, and I've witnessed them in my teen daughters' as well. Anti-bully programs are popular in the public school system in our area. I'm assuming both sexes are addressed.

Maybe the subject is a fad right now, Colleen. And maybe we are looking more at the mean girl herself, rather than the victim who used to concern us most. Stephen King's Carrie flashes to mind. Is this new perspective giving the subject a fresh breath in teen lit? There's a fuller story of the mean girl herself, and there's even the exploration of a placid character turning into one: Tina Fey's Mean Girls.

Those are my thoughts. I'm not overly worried or concerned. The antagonist wears so many masks. Right now, she just happens to have a very nice complexion."

Zetta Elliott: "I have to admit that I haven’t read any “mean girl” teen lit, but I think there’s definite value in portraying girls as fully human—and that means showing the good, the bad, and the ugly. I think we’ve all encountered spiteful or malicious women throughout our lives, so that should certainly be reflected in literature. I think one of the limitations of some feminist movements and/or thinkers is the refusal to acknowledge that women aren’t monolithic; they don’t all share the same values or goals, and there’s no automatic instinct for female solidarity that kicks in whenever one of us is in trouble (women of color learned this very early on when dealing with white middle-class feminists; queer women know this about straight women, etc.). At the same time, we do need to make sure that “mean girls” aren’t represented in a disproportionate way—and I can immediately think of books I’ve read recently that stress solidarity among teenage girls (Shine, Coconut Moon; Down to the Bone); I think lots of books feature girls who are best friends, where loyalty, trust, and compassion are central. So long as we’ve got balance, I’m satisfied, though it would also help if writers examined WHY girls are sometimes vicious instead of heightening tension between girls just to create drama."

Laurel Snyder: "This is funny timing, because I've recently had three different friends ask me for advice on "good mean-girl books" for their struggling daughters. A month ago I think I might have suggested that the "mean girl" is an archetype, a literary figure of sorts. But suddenly I'm remembering the daily hell of the lunch table. The torture of wearing the wrong jeans.

And I know, I KNOW that most tortured awesome girls will go off into their adult lives and recover, and grow wings and leave the stupid mean girls in a cloud of dust. Most girls won't won't upturn the social order of the lunchroom, so much as they'll outgrow it. It WILL make them stronger in some cases, but slowly, quietly. Not by page 200. I'm not sure that the treatment of these situations is usually very realistic in YA (though I'm no expert, and will be curious to see what others say). I think mean-girl-itis tends to get "resolved" in most books, in ways that my own twisted high school experience didn't get resolved until college, where I realized that the mean girls had always been insecure morons.

Are there books like that? Where the picked-on kid goes home for the holidays at age 20, and only feels sorry for the dumb mean girl? I found that emotion really satisfying myself. Sympathy as vengeance."

Melissa Wyatt: "I don't know if the volume of mean girl teen lit correlates with actual mean girl statistics, but yeah, I know that the mean girl phenomena is very real. I have nieces and young girlfriends dealing with it firsthand. The scary thing, though, is that the mean girl has morphed since I was a teen. She doesn't limit herself to using her tongue to take down her prey. She's become physically violent, films her attacks and puts them on YouTube. If she was acting out of fear or insecurity before, needing to tear down other girls to make herself feel stronger, why does she now need to inflict physical pain?

It's interesting to consider if she's an unfair stereotype. I do think she sometimes gets talked about with wonder because it is still unexpected to think of girls being this aggressive. We expect it from boys, so even though mean boys abound, they don't generate as much surprise. And yet today, we encourage girls to BE more aggressive. And certainly, that's important in many ways. But are they getting the wrong message or taking it the wrong way? Or is there something else at work, driving the kind of social fear that leads to violence? Girls are under so much pressure to be so many things today, is it any wonder they're confused?

Anyway, I believe the mean girl is real and she's out there and she's going to be written about, especially in YA because it's such a perfect place to think about the "whys." And the small comfort that if you are her victim, you are not alone.

As for whether it's easier to write about mean girls than nice ones...Well, there really wouldn't be a story if everyone in it was nice! That's why people don't write them. Fascinating--and tough--question as always!"

Sara Ryan: "Girls who are mean definitely exist, and have always existed. (Are you thinking of one? I am.) But few if any girls are all mean, all the time. I think that Mean Girls(tm) can be enticing as characters because they create conflict by their very presence in a story. And once you've established that they're Mean Girls, no need to worry about their motivation -- they're just mean! (Unless, of course, they're publicly Mean but secretly Nice, in which case they will eventually repent.)

Also, since insults are the primary means by which Mean Girls(tm) communicate, they're an excuse to use all the best/worst lines you've been storing up over the years.

But a Mean Girl(tm) is also, by definition, two-dimensional; a type rather than a fully rounded character. It's more challenging, but ultimately more rewarding, to write about girls who sometimes act mean, like Julia and Miranda in Rebecca Stead's When You Reach Me, or worse than mean, like Leah in Jo Knowles' Lessons From A Dead Girl. Because the truth is that friendships are complicated, jealousy and resentment can coexist with affection and admiration, and there are times when we are all mean girls."

Kekla Magoon: "I can't comment knowledgeably about the mean girl phenomenon because I don't really understand it myself. These stories don't typically appeal to me, at least when they're glorifying the mean girls as heroines or role models. I connect with the stories that take the point of view of someone who falls on the outside of these sorts of cliques, and/or suffers on their margins. I do think the archetypal "mean girl" character reflects reality, but only a slice of it. So does the idea of popular girl cliques who step on others in the quest for...whatever it is they're truly after, be it popularity, the illusion of control over their lives, or the lives of others, or simply the heady assurance that they have something other people want. Where I see meanness, I see weakness, and those aren't characters I want to get close to, though they can serve a story in myriad ways.

One last point: I believe the battles "mean girls" wage are encouraged by our culture. Women are taught that we have to change ourselves to be accepted, be it through clothes or makeup or attitude, and while the desire to support each other is second-nature, we so often are pitted against each other in small ways--who's prettier, smarter, most likely to succeed--that lead to in-fighting, and a thirst to be on top, because not everybody can be. It makes me sad, but that's what I see. Only sometimes in real life, but always in mean girl characters."

Neesha Meminger: "This is a question I've often pondered myself. I think my main concern with the "mean girls" phenomenon is that they focus on inter-personal dynamics without also looking at the larger, social,
economic, and political constructs within which we all function. In the case of books, films, television shows, and other mean girls representations, certain isolated incidents are used to somehow prove that *everyone* can be abusive and that violence is a natural and intrinsic part of human nature; without any consideration of the power imbalances at play.

For instance, yes there are mean girls. Of course girls in high school (and middle school and grade school) can be horribly cruel to one another. Girls can absolutely be bullies. Girls beat one another up and can be downright
vicious to those who are perceived to be "different" or "weaker." Whenever this issue is raised, I am reminded of the 1996 case of Reena Virk, the Indian, Punjabi teen who was murdered by a gang of mostly girls in British
Columbia, Canada. She was viciously attacked by girls she had desperately wanted to be friends with.

The media responded to this horrific tragedy by labeling it as "girl violence" or the "rise of girl gangs." The whole focus was on the fact that the group of teens who beat Virk to death were mostly girls. There was no race analysis, no class analysis, and absolutely no mention of enforced hetero-normativity (for a great, non-mainstream analysis of that case, see Yasmin Jiwani's essays as well as Sheila Batacharya's).

It was *one* incident that now, somehow, proved that girls can be murderers, too. That girls can be just as vicious as boys, and violence has nothing to do with power structures; that it is really all about inter-personal dynamics.

Meanwhile, here are just a few stats from FREDA with some specifics to consider:

~ Of harassment incidents reported to police in 1994-95, 8 in 10 victims were female, and 9 in 10 of the accused were male (Kong 1996).
~ Most multiple-victim homicides and murder-suicides were family-related, and the vast majority of accused persons in these types of incidents were male" (Statistics Canada 2002)
~ Women constitute 98% of spousal violence victims of kidnapping/hostage-taking and sexual assault (Fitzgerald 1999)
~ Of persons charged: 98% of sexual assaults are by men and 86% of violent crimes are committed by men (Johnson 1996).

And the list goes on.

Young women and girls grow up in the same world young males do. They learn how to become victims or perpetrators in the same society, the same schools, and are bombarded with the same media representations. And the power structure, with its many imbalances, is the unseen scaffolding propping up all of our psychological, emotional, and spiritual development.

I don't mind reading books about mean girls, as long as they are placed within the context of the larger world and the power dynamics and complexities of that larger world. Otherwise, these stories come off as flat and cliched. They become re-creations of the old "victim meets bully, victim suffers, victim learns to fight back" story--which can be a wonderful, timeless, empowering story to be sure; not implying otherwise. But when the bullies/"mean girls" are young women and the victims are young women, there needs to be a deeper exploration of hidden power dynamics at play in addition to the complex psychological layers of the characters.

Those complexities in a story, as well as the Truth at its core, are what make any book an interesting, absorbing, powerful read.

Margo Rabb: "I'm writing this while 7+ months pregnant, and lately, I've been thinking a lot about how much being pregnant is like being an adolescent. The deluge of hormones, your body doing weird things, the confusion of your life changing dramatically...it reminds me of how incredibly hard it is to be a teenager, and how sensitive and vulnerable you are during those years. I think as adults we forget what that feels like--how an offhand criticism can make you bawl, or how your moods can change instantaneously, with depths and highs that are incomprehensible to most adults.

My point is that the mean girls are real--but what's also real is the sensitivity that teen girls have to the nuances of their mean-ness. As an adult, it's usually fairly easy to brush off criticisms and avoid people who you don't get along with. As a teen, the tiniest comment from an insensitive girl or boy can send you into a tailspin, and you may remember it for the rest of your life. Being a teen is so hard...the highs are higher, the lows are lower, and the mean girls are way, way meaner. At least I think that reading about those girls does make it a little bit easier to deal with them in real life. (At least I hope so.)"

[Final pic in Neesha's post is of Reena Virk; beaten by a pack of girls and murdered at age 14.]

ETA: Author Courtney Summers has an excellent post up on why she wrote about mean girls - great discussion in the comments.

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Another phenomenal question and post, Colleen. Thank you.

I agree with Beth: this was fascinating to read. Your thoughtful responses have got me reading the initial question with a slightly shifted perspective. And because I tend to think of these WAGW questions through my non-fiction glasses, I am wondering about real mean girls. Who are they? Do we read about them? Do we write about them? I can't think of a single example off the top of my head, but I'll ponder a bit and come back later. Thanks for getting us all thinking...

I haven't stopped thinking about this, and I want to offer a thought:

That if political correctness gets in the way of thinking about this clearly sometimes.

We want to believe all kids are essentially good. We don't want to believe that real kids (as opposed to vamps and evil fairyes and so on) just plain suck.

Our understanding of the world causes us to look for reasons to empathize with all kids. "They were neglected or they have genetic predispositions to hit and spit and cuss or they're a second child."

And that's totally true. But I don't think it changes the way it feels to be hit or spit at or cussed at or teased/manipulated.

I have two toddlers, and already it has begun for me-- the judging. I see them interacting with other kids, and I think, "I don't want them playing with THOSE kids. THOSE kids are mean." Because they ARE mean. I don't want my own kids crippled emotionally by the games another THREE YEAR OLD is playing.

I hate that kid.

But then, later, if I discuss that kid, I say, "I wonder if maybe he's on the spectrum? Maybe he's struggling because he doesn't have siblings? Maybe he needs a dog?" I look for any reason to say something besides, "That kid sucks!"

Which leaves me either treating them as a flat character, a plastic doll, as many books do, I think. Or attempting to resolve/reconcile/explain their emotions.

Devil's advocate here. Is there a sucking gene?

Are there any fully fleshed out, real, MEAN girls, who don't learn a lesson or get explained?

What I think bothers me most is that the Mean Girl has become such an easy stock character, like the Sidekick of Different Ethnicity, or the Gay Guy Friend. It's lazy writing, to be sure, but also I think the massive population of mean girls in YA lit (and probably TV, though I'm not up on my TV) legitimizes the role for actual teen girls. Especially when the girl is mean AND witty, viz Cordelia. Dude, I STILL find myself quoting Cordelia.

The other thing I think of is: where are the Mean Boys? Any boy you catch sniping and gossiping in a YA novel is gay. In fact, it's code for gay, even when the character isn't out. So - meanness is now a feminine trait? Well, THAT sucks! What next, we own bigotry?

Ooh, I got it! I want to see a YA novel with a romantic pairing between Underachiever Boy and Mean Girl.

Thanks for the great questions!

Like Loree Griffin Burns, I always look at these questions differently once I read the responses of others... That's one of the many great gifts of this exchange. On my own blog this morning there is a seeming affirmation that mean girls abound in multiples, and not in the rarities that I described.

In the end, I can only base my responses on what I live and see. The kids to whom I taught writing (from third through tenth grade), the high school girls I writing workshop with, the kids I traveled to Juarez with, the church kids, my students at Penn. I find struggle everywhere, dismay, broken hearts; but within these souls I do find light. Do I look too hard for it? Perhaps. Do I need to believe it is there? Perhaps, too. Do I ever forget how I have sometimes been mistreated—not just in childhood, but in the very near past (oh my, the stories I could tell)? Never. But all in all, in this admittedly small world of mine, I find more inherent goodness than absolute, implacable meanness. Literature needs to reflect it all, but as honestly and as non-cliche-y as possible.

The "mean girl" phenomenon is definitely getting worse. But I don't think teen literature is perpetuating it, it's merely shedding some light on a growing problem. When I was doing research for SISTERS OF MISERY, I went into a lot of schools to talk about girl bullies (I still am, actually) and you would be surprised at the psychological warfare going on among girls. Even at a very young age.

Every book signing event I do, I always say, "I hope you never meet girls as mean as the ones in my book." And I always get the same answer, "I already have." :(

I do think it's a trend, and while some follow it or write it just because it's trendy, others are exorcising their own demons from youth, whether they were the bullies or the bullied. Like anything, some of these books are stronger than others -- some are better written and more plausible than others, some add something new to the genre and lend something to consider, while others are cliche.

When I first heard that Tina Fey had optioned QB&WB, I wondered what she'd do with it, and when I finally saw Mean Girls, I appreciated that it was satirical. Odd Girl Out was made into a Lifetime movie but treated as a serious drama.

This - if you can believe it - is just a fraction of what I have to say about this trend and the real-life happenings. Have to go. :)

One of the first books I tried to write was when I was in sixth grade; it was going to be called "The Decline and Fall of Becky's Empire." And yes, it was going to be about a mean girl. In my book, everyone was going to see how mean Becky was, and realize that Mary Sue (I mean, of course, the character who was basically me) was really a good person. That, needless to say, didn't happen in real life.

Neesha, I'm really glad you brought up the role of power dynamics & imbalances. My elementary school wasn't terribly diverse, so the imbalances were most often class-based. But looking back, I can see that sometimes the meanness came from the "top" down -- from the rich girls wanting to maintain their high status -- and sometimes from the "bottom" up -- poor girls attacking preemptively, before someone attacked them.

I wanted to quickly add kudos for the pictures and covers inserted throughout -I recommend The Girls to elementary/early middle school readers who have problems with cliques and fights with friends. Some Girls Are and Lessons from a Dead Girl are both very striking.

Thanks for all the responses everyone and I have to point out that I took some of these covers from Little Willow's incredible site (and I will be adding an appropriate link to that effect in the main post shortly!).

You're book lists are awesome!

I think what ynl wrote above is particularly striking - that meanness has become very much a feminine trait in pop culture and seems to be owned by girls/women now. My husband and I talked about this the other night - women have "Housewives of XXX" or "Bridezillas" or "Say Yes to the Dress" (which has a surprising amount of bitchiness) while guys are watching "Mythbusters" and "Street Customs" and "Lobstermen". I'm not saying there isn't gender crossover on these shows - I know there is - but the so-called women shows don't exactly highlight the best traits of the female species while the guys are all being crafty and brave and strong and whatever.

So yeah - when did being mean become something womanly as opposed to be being brave or intelligent or creative?

Oh - and I love Cordelia too but I think she was redeemed by becoming a good girl in the end!

'When did mean become something womanly as opposed to being brave or intelligent or creative?' I think it was way back in the mists of time. It seems women's smarts have always been characterised cunning, which has that evil connotation instead of clever. And the cunning women usually get their comeupance because, it's implied their smarts lead them into temptation and then they do evil things.

I love the What a Girl Wants series! The question is always something really thoughtful and the responses leave me pondering for weeks after (if I wasn't in school, I would write a blog post with my own thoughts after every one of these posts!).
Mean Girls is one of my favorite movies. It's funny and a bit extreme, but there are mean girls and I feel like that movie really helped bring the issue to more people's attention. I also think that books can do that. I read the Clique series (my 7th and 8th grade classmates were obsessed) and I didn't really like them. I couldn't believe people that mean, spoiled and self-centered existed. What was worse was when my 7th and 8th grade classmates tried to emulate these characters, form their own mean cliques and label people.
Being a teen is hard, because it's true that one mean comment can ruin your day, if not your whole week/the rest of your teen years (someone once told me I looked like a boy and I've never gotten over it).
Neesha that's so terrible about what happened to Reena Virk. What really makes me mad is that the media is not focusing on why girls are attacking each other (like you said there should be more class and race analysis because that can play a pivotal role) and people are putting videos on YouTube of them beating up other people.
Colleen good point when you say that a lot of shows out there don't show the best side of girls (you have some crazy people on reality TV shows like Flavor of Love or Real World) and on the other hand you have shows that feature mean girls who are really mean, but they are also smart and witty and you kinda want to be like them (Like Gossip Girl's Blair Waldorf).
Sorry this is so long!

Thank you Colleen for another intriguing post.

As a middle school teacher, I will admit "mean girls" do exist. They feed on the hurt feelings and insecurities of their peers. I would also like to add that the real-life mean girls do not simply target other girls, they target anyone they feel they can overpower.

That said, while there are mean girls in our society, they are few and far between. I agree with ynl and Little Willow. The topic does seem to be a popular trend (although they have appeared in older titles) and now the characters are often used to attract a reader's attention or fill the book with a variety of characters.

I think that portraying mean girls/boys in books and movies can be helpful to teens, especially those who have been bullied or those who have bullied a peer. It is a sad fact that so many young people are at the center of gossip or harassed on a daily basis; maybe these books and movies will spark meaningful dialogue and decrease the power of the mean girl.

Thanks, Colleen! :)

I just flashed on Cordelia wielding a spatula... Ah, good times, good times.

LOVE this post and all the discussion. Laurel's words, both in the post and in the comments, really parallel my own thoughts here, but I'm going to escape and think about it quietly a little bit. Thank you.

Terrific post & responses, Colleen. I'm in the art-as-mirror camp. If there is a preoccupation with mean girls in teen lit (and it's not just teen lit, is it? Margaret Atwood's CAT'S EYE comes to mind), that's surely a reflection of the girls who go on to write teen lit, and the girls who continue read it.

There was also that piece in The Onion a few days ago...
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/group_of_popular_girls_reduces

Fantastic discussion and great responses!

Should you ever wonder if this phenomenon is being exaggerated, check out:

http://www.opheliaproject.org/main/index.htm

&

http://about-face.org/

(And, I should note: it's not just disrespect and bullying/relationship aggression that is on the rise for girls, it's on the rise for *everyone* out there. Sad, really.)

I have to concur with everyone above. Sadly, based on the firsthand accounts of moms with older girls, and my own research of related sociology books, mean girls do exist. I'm not sure why. Is it because when you're dealing with insecurity, sometimes the easiest way to feel better about yourself is to tear someone else down? Is it peer pressure? Is it about the unbelievable pressures girls face to rise to some artificial and, for most, unobtainable standards of beauty and size? I'm not sure.

What I do know is the latter surely can't be helping, and yet--we've talked about this dilemma for years and nothing has changed. In fact, in some cases, I think the media influence on young girls has gotten worse. When we live in a society that prizes looks and brand names above many other things, I think we create an environment where "mean girls" flourish. Something needs to change, nationwide, in our approach to values before we see a change in "mean girls."

There's a great nonfiction study of female bullying called ODD GIRL OUT.

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