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My friend Sarah Stevenson is the author of a YA title about multi-ethnic teens who decide to take on the world while making a few dollars. THE LATTE REBELLION is not the story you expect - it's certainly about finding your way and making a statement about who you are (and who you choose to be) but it's also about having a very typical teenage life in world that generally views itself through the lens of skin color and race. Sarah's characters ask the question of just what happens when you don't fit into the preordained set of ethnic rules and even more importantly, why we need those stupid rules anyway.

Oh, and it's also about selling many many t-shirts to fund a killer vacation.

Here's a bit of Liz had to say on LATTE REBELLION back in January:

The capitalist part of me adores that the Latte Rebellion starts as a way to raise money. AWESOME. And practically no one blinks an eye at Asha’s and Carey’s use of social awareness and concerns to make money for a vacation. They talk about marketing and budgets and how this can be spun for college applications and everyone agrees. It’s not just Asha; when she meets hot guy Thad, a college student who wants to help create community clinics in poor and rural areas, he says “I just think people really need this kind of thing, and Greg and I have some good ideas. We think we could manage to make a living off it.” I am dead serious when I say how much I love this combination of idealism and practicality, of wanting to do good but knowing one still has to pay the rent.

And be sure to check out Ari's thoughts after reading the novel on being bicultural, mixed race or multiracial and her frustration over having to choose just one box on those college applications.

Now onto Sarah's interview!

CM: You combine two major themes in LATTE REBELLION: that of mixed race teens struggling to fit into pre-existing race categories and also teen with a capitalist bent trying to find an unconventional way to make money. How long had both these ideas been playing around in your head and why did you decide to work both into the narrative? (The more conventional route would have been for Asha and Carey to try to take on the world, not make dollars for a trip.)

SS: Both ideas were pretty integral to my concept of the book from the very beginning. They sort of came into my head about the same time, really--I started off with this thought that Latte Rebellion would be a fun name for a mixed-race group (kind of like Sepia Mutiny, a site aimed at people of South Asian descent). Right after that, the character of Asha popped into my head and the ideas started to flow fast and furious!

From the beginning I wanted to make this a fun story with a healthy dose of humor, not just an "issue book." Not that the issues it covers aren't important to me, but I feel very strongly that there need to be more books that have race/ethnicity/culture as a theme but which are not pigeonholed into being "ethnic books" or even problem novels—identity is a valid theme in ANY genre, and especially in YA. Also, I wanted to make it clear that ethnic/racial identity can be a trait or a point of discussion without necessarily being problematic all the time. Asha is usually pretty comfortable about her identity; there might be the occasional awkward moment, but she's not spending every waking minute agonizing over being mixed race. And, as Asha points out in the book, we're all so much more than just our genetics or our ethnic origin.

Anyway, I really liked the idea of a moneymaking scheme gone horribly and hilariously awry as a premise for the plot, and the Latte Rebellion was a great vehicle for that. It got a bit more serious as I wrote it—one important thing I learned while I was writing and revising is that even with a "light" novel, the stakes need to be high enough to be interesting.

CM: Why do you think there has been less of a focus on mixed race teens in books? We could talk all day about diversity in YA (could we ever!) but when that subject comes up it usually is directed at single races, religions or sexuality. I haven't really seen too many titles come out with mixed race teens and yet it is a common reality for millions in this country (including everyone from Tiger Woods to Sasha and Malia Obama). I know you are mixed-race which makes the subject a personal one for you so I wondered how you felt as a teen looking for books with characters who mirrored you. How do you think mixed-race teen readers feel today?

SS: I'm not entirely sure why there aren't more titles with mixed-race teens, to be honest. Like you said, it's an increasingly common reality for millions, especially the generations younger than me. As a kid, I didn't feel like there were a lot of other mixed-race/mixed-ethnicity kids around, but as I grew older, I realized that some of that is simply the fact that we all blend in so well--either we look racially ambiguous or one side predominates in terms of phenotype. :) In high school, I had a handful of friends of mixed background. And it's much more common now, for sure, so I'm really hoping that we see more books in which kids of mixed race are either featured or simply included and acknowledged.

As a reader growing up, though, I have to admit I was all about the escapist fiction! I didn't necessarily feel like I "needed" protagonists who mirrored my identity or experience, although I probably didn't know what I was missing, either. In junior high, I was reading a lot of Sweet Valley High (yeah, yeah, I know) and I had already started reading a fair amount of adult sci-fi and fantasy.

But, having brought that up—the idea that a lot of teen (and adult) readers read for wish-fulfillment—there's a big hole there as far as mixed-race or even just ambiguously "brown" characters are concerned. We deserve to have our wish-fulfillment fantasies addressed, too, without feeling like that entails a negation of our identity. Whether we're reading about ourselves or looking for stories about someone different from ourselves, it's nice to feel like we COULD see ourselves in the story rather than the story placing its ideas and biases into US. (I hope that makes sense!)



CM: In a few reviews I've read it seems that some readers wanted the girls to be more committed to the Latte Rebellion ideal rather than the t-shirt money. Did you expect this push back and how realistic is it? Do you think real teens in this situation would feel this way?

SS: I honestly didn't expect that at all, since, in my mind, it's always been kind of a humorous story, and so certain aspects are exaggerated in the service of amusement and plot hijinks. I've been thinking about this a lot, though, since encountering those comments. And I've finally been able to articulate my thoughts about it, thanks in part to a recent blog post by David Elzey about the glut of "exceptional" protagonists in fiction (and increasingly in children's and YA books).

My personal feeling on it is that, while it might be nice to imagine that teens are entirely driven by idealism, idealism and selflessness are not quite the same thing. I don't think it's realistic to expect every teen, or every adult, to have selfless motivations. My book was very much about characters with flaws—and, to me, flaws are an opportunity for growth. Asha and Carey were idealistic from the beginning, but most definitely they were not selfless. Asha had to grow into a more selfless, activist role—she did not exactly earn her status as the figurehead of a movement, but rather fell into it somewhat by accident, and she had to work at it to merit that status.

Secret Writing Tidbit: In the first draft of LATTE, if you can believe it, they were even MORE selfish. :) I'm not sure what that says about me. It seemed amusing at the time...but I have a warped sense of humor.



CM: Do you think that taking on a story about race carries extra weight for the author? These books are generally considered "message" books and the message is pretty much always that we must all get along. While there is no shortage of conflict in your book, there is a lightheartedness to it as well (plus Asha's big problem is not so much her race as her grades). When we talk about diversity in teen books how much emphasis do you think it should have in a story - what's your idea of perfect balance?

SS: I'm not sure I can address the idea of perfect balance for any single book, because every story is going to be different, and what's appropriate for one story is not going to be the same for another. I honestly believe that a book with race as a theme does not necessarily have to be a "message" book. Novels that include race don't necessarily have to be "about" race. Or, to look at it another way, maybe an important message is the idea that race shouldn't always trump every other theme in a novel! I almost feel like it's a sign of our continuing discomfort with the discussion of race that it immediately becomes such a focus, regardless of what the author's aims might be.

That leads to my idea of perfect balance, though: I think perfect balance is having enough room and flexibility for there to be books with a message about race AND books about race in which it's simply one of many aspects of identity, as well as everything in between. We need ALL of those stories, not just one type of story.

See other Summer Blog Blast Tour interviews today at Bildungsoman, Hip Writer Mama and The Happy Nappy Bookseller. Be sure to check out the Master Schedule for quotes and direct links!

comments

I love these interviews, because they allow the writer to give us an idea of what went on in their heads as they wrote. This is especially fun for me to read in that way!!

Thanks so much for asking me these great questions, Colleen! It gave me a chance to articulate some of the thoughts that have been rattling around in my mind about the book and why I wrote it the way I did. (All hindsight, of course! :)

I still want to see the following sayings on a Latte Rebellion T-shirt

Yeah, here's an idea," Carey said, a little sarcastically. " We could print instructive T-shirts that say,

No I am not Mexican. Neither is J. Lo. Thanks for asking"

And

"Ask not what the brown can do for you, but what you can do for the brown.

After being on American Idol J.Lo is hot again. I would totally rock the second one and I think my UPS driver would get a kick out of it.

YES Doret - love the J Lo shirt! Get on that Sarah! ha!

Thanks so much for the great interview, Sarah and Colleen! I'm with Tanita on enjoying hearing about how the story reached its final form!

Go Sarah! Go Colleen!

Now I'm singing Jenny from the Block.

:)

Jodie

I read the bit from Liz's review with interest when she first posted it. While I can see that Zach's attitude is just practically minded (he wants to do good, but he also needs to eat) I was wondering if Asha's approach to the same kind of thing (wants to make money for her own needs) isn't kind of off? Some of the wording in the Latte Rebellion materials would I think be classed as false advertising, because they suggest that all the money would go towards promoting the cause. I enjoyed the angle of teenagers who come to idealism through capitalist acts, but I was really confused by the fact that no one said 'um, but you've just told us you're going to use this money for a holiday, I thought I was donating solely to a cause'. Maybe that would be more relevant in an adult novel because teenagers aren't exactly getting education on the finer points of advertising law and so maybe none of her classmates realise, or maybe I'm just off the mark, but I've been wondering about it ever since.

Interesting point, Jodie - I'll hand this one off to Sarah and see if she can respond. (She's going off to a conference for a few days so it might not be immediate but I'll be sure she knows of your comment!)

Thanks, Jodie for the thoughtful question! I guess in my mind (the author's mind!) the advertising slogans and other marketing materials were part of the humor aspect. But with respect to the story itself, and the characters--when they came up with the idea, they had no inkling that the Rebellion would spread so far or come to be taken seriously, so they didn't see the harm with being flip and careless about their marketing methods. They figured if someone didn't want to donate to their travel fund, they didn't have to buy Rebellion stuff in the first place. :) I agree it would have made an interesting scene to have someone wonder about that specifically. (Dang! Now I'm thinking to myself how great it would have been to include a big blowup about false advertising...)

Jodie

Oh that's so nice of you two to come back on this! I was wondering if it was just a suspension of disbelief point, with reasoning hidden behind the scenes and I was just noticing it because I work in marketing and was being a bit of a literal geek. Thanks for the reply.

Hi Sarah and Colleen - love this discussion, and the book, and can't wait to continue the conversation at the Kidlitosphere conference!
Namaste,
Lee

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